Springwise reports that Boober.nl has plans to expand its p2p lending service into the German and Belgian markets. In job ads Boober recently searched country directors for Germany, France and Spain and said it is already working on roll out in Belgium.
Following the previous post on Smava.de here is a look on the business case of the smava startup and the chances for profit.
Currently Smava earns only when a loan funds. Smava charges the borrower a 1% fee of the loan amount. Only other fee are 10 Euros per dunning letter (which is covers the costs of the dunning letters but is otherwise neglectable).
Possible reason for the low fee (in comparison to Prosper and Zopa) are the low interest rates in Germany which might not allow for higher fees. Loans range from 500 to 10.000 Euro. Assuming an average loan amount of 3000 Euro Smava would earn 30 Euro.
Looking at transaction costs, we have:
- Identity check of borrowers and lenders via PostIdent (approx 5 Euros each)
- Creditgrade check (estimate 1 Euro)
- Validation of documentation for borrowers (estimate 5 Euro, based on typical call center cost, actual inhouse costs could be higher or lower)
- Validation of documentation for lenders (estimate 3 Euro, based on typical call center cost, actual inhouse costs could be higher or lower)
Even looking at this transaction costs without taking into regard marketing, overhead, legal and setup costs it seems that Smava faces quite a challenge and will have to focus on automation of processes.
A critical factor in my view is the fact, that costs for lender and borrower identification are incurred before anything happens and regardless if borrowers and lenders become active. Learnings form Prosper.com are that 103.000 listings created only 9000 loans, which means 90% of listings gounfunded. Of the 230000 Prosper.com members about 23000 have the role lender. Only 12000 of these were active in the last 30 days.
Prosper does some verification only when a listing will fund.
An interesting factor of Smava is the high minimum fee of 500 Euro (which Colin Henderson was quick to point out).
In a call founder Eckart Vierkant reasoned that a lower minimum was not necessary due to the automatic risk spreading through the Anleger-Pool (see previous post).
The 500 Euro minimum has 2 interesting effects:
- since the lowest unit is 500 Euro, deposits from 0 to 499 Euro will accumulate on the lender accounts. Lenders collect non interest on these unloaned amount. Assuming an average 'parked' amount is 200 Euro and that the bank partner of Smava invests this money earning a return of 5 % that would mean 10 Euro profit per year and active lender
- the 500 Euro minimum keeps small lenders out (at least in theory since anybody can register for free)
It will be interesting to see how Smava deals with that challenge in future.
Startup Smava.de starts offering p2p lending in Germany. Anybody can lend or request a loan online. Borrowers, after registering will by checked for identity and credit grade by smava. Smava uses PostIdent (a service offered by German postal service Deutsche Post) to verify the identity of the borrower and relies on credit report information from Schufa, a leading German credit bureau. Smava is only open to borrowers with credit grades A to F (which smava says leads to expected default rates between 1.4% and 7.2%).
After validation the borrower can post his request which can range from 500 to 10000 Euro and state the interest rate he is willing to pay. Lenders can bid in intervals of 500 (minimum) Euros.
If the loan request is fully funded the loan is payed to the borrower which will repay it in monthly rates for a period of 36 months. The borrower has the right to payoff early anytime (without any additional fees).
Smava does not take fees from the lenders. Smava charges 1% fee of the loan amount from the borrower.
An interesting though complicated instrument are the so-called Anleger-Pools (engl. lender pools). The purpose of these is risk spreading over all loans of a given creditgrade. Say a specific B loan is not payed back. In this case this would lower the repayment on all B loans (not just this specific one). Does this mean the lender can invest in any loan regardless of description. No because this instrument applies only to repayments not to interest due.
Due to German regulation smava, which is a startup founded as limited company, had to partner with a bank. While there are different views on whether under German laws a banking licence is required to run a p2p lending platform or not, Smava chose the safe route by partnering with the ‘Bank für Investments und Wertpapiere AG (BiW)’. This way deposits are secured by the German Einlagensicherungsfonds. Deposits which are not lend out, do not earn interest.
Some interesting feature, when viewed in comparison to Zopa, Prosper and Boober:
- There are individual listings (like Prosper)
- There are groups (like Prosper), but seemingly no group rewards
- There is no auction bidding down interest rates (or I missed it)
- In case of non-payment (for over 40 days) smava has the right to sell the loan to the collection agency Intrum Justita for a percentage of the value
- maximum a lender can loan is 25000 Euro
- maximum per loan is 10000 Euro
- minimum bid is 500 Euro
- only German residents can borrow or lend
- no interest on unlend deposits
- simple fee structure (borrower pays 1% of loan amount), no late or other fees
- new Anleger-Pool (lender pool) concept for risk spreading on defaults within same credit grade
The management team behind Smava has a lot of ecommerce experience. I could not determine when smava launched publicly, according to forum and loan activity it can have been no more then a few days ago.
Smava already received press coverage by a large regional newspaper.
P.S.: If you blog about this a link back here would be appreciated. Thank you!
A new tool offered by wiseclerk.com allows prosper group leaders to display a ticker on their websites or blogs which shows open listings in their groups. It updates automatically and allows users to click through to listings they like.
The tool is free. Group leaders get the easy to install code here.
CommunityLend.com has announced the start of p2p lending in Canada on the site in fall 2007 enabling person to person lending without a bank as the middlemen, thereby eliminating banking fees. It promises lenders higher returns and borrowers lower interest rates and flexible payment options on loans. It aims to 'revolutionize the way lending works in Canada'.
Earlier it will launch a working pre-view which allow users to test drive the site without using real money. CommunityLend expects useful user feedback during this work preview which it plans to use to enhance the site until the launch date.
CommunityLend is driven by an impressive team which includes Michael Garrity (Founder and President), ex-Bank of Montreal exec and BankWatch blogger Colin Henderson and John Philip Green, currently Director of Engineering at Affinity Labs and Co-Founder of of Savvica and Rapleaf.
CommunityLend profits as it can pick the best form the existing models (Prosper, Zopa). It will not just replicate one site. Few is known about the plans, but the announcement states that Community Lend will include auctions and groups (as does Prosper) as well as selectable paypack periods (as does Zopa).
Sources: p2p-kredite.com and others
P.S.: If you blog about this a link back here would be appreciated. Thank you!
C4-World.com announced that it will start closed beta testing on MyC4.com in May. On MyC4 social lending will aid African businesses. Individual lenders grant loans for the duration of 6 to 12 months. A difference to the microfinance concept of Kiva.org is that lenders will earn interest. Furthermore C4-World aims to not only offer money, but also knowledge to the entrepreneurs in Africa through it's online community.
Public launch of MyC4 is scheduled for Q4 2007. Minimum investment is $200. I am to participate in the closed beta and will publish my experiences.
BigGulp's report on a day spent at Prosper.com customer service. Recently back insourced from the Phillipines the customer service is still a topic of many complaints at the discussion forums.
Dzogchen analyses in this thread which Prosper groups have grown fast and larger. He uses own categories like 'distressed borrowers' to analyse group performance and found out that groups directed at some causes have experienced much higher defaults then others. E.g. in 'distressed borrowers' 12.1% are delinquent, while in 'entrepreneurs' it's 6.2% compared to 0.5 in 'computer users. techies'.
Following discussion included whether this allows predictions and if listings without groups are better risks. An asked for report was if borrowers that posted in the 'Review My Listing' did have a higher rate of defaults.
I think most of you will agree that Prosper is a wonderful concept and has tremendous potential! Otherwise, you probably wouldn’t be reading this (is anyone reading this?).
But Prosper’s approach has a fundamental flaw: They have cherry-picked states to license in as a means to keep costs down.
That creates two problems:
1) Lack of consistency across the various States, which leads to borrower confusion.
2) Lack of growth opportunities.
Publicity is a great thing! It draws attention and gets people excited. I’m sure Chris Larsen has done a thousand interviews by now. Local, national and international news programs. I’ve read about Prosper in no less than then major print publications. The buzz is there!
But many potential borrowers are left wondering why they cannot have access to this wonderful tool. Some are so severely rate-capped that they list and relist without so much as a bid. They are helpless and they leave frustrated. What business wants people leaving with that?
Currently, Prosper can only grow through increased market share. While I’m confident that they have a product that is capable of such, they are leaving a lot on the table. By opening up in the other States and removing the rate-caps in the rest, they could expand their market significantly. Effectively, grow wider and deeper.
It is time for Prosper to go National! It is time for them to abandon the State-by-State licensing strategy and give Prosper members (and future Prosper members) a consistent platform to grow. I hope you’ll join me in my quest to get Prosper moving on this issue. Please visit www.baldeagleloans.com/nevada.html for details on how you can help.
Based on an idea from frequencydip and using code first implemented by zieri of zierious.com I just added short urls, which are much easier to remember and do not use that much space in forum signatures or elsewhere.
Everybody can now use the following short URLs:
- http://www.wiseclerk.com/r/listing/108578 to link to a listing number (just state listing number at end e.g. 108578)
- http://www.wiseclerk.com/r/group/Apple to link to group (e.g. Apple)
- http://www.wiseclerk.com/r/glistings/Apple to link to openlistings of a group (e.g. Apple)
- http://www.wiseclerk.com/r/member/frequencydip to link to a prosper.com member page (e.g. frequencydip)
This URLs instantly without delay redirect to the prosper.com pages.