Variable Pricing on the Seedrs Secondary Market is Live – Chances for some Interesting Trading Experiments

Seedrs logoI use Seedrs* to invest into the equity of British startups since 2013. I have written about several aspects and my experience in the past here on the blog. Overall my results are very satisfying. My annualized return (IRR) is currently 23.4%. As I am not a UK resident I forego the tax benefits of EIS/SEIS which according to the Seedrs*  dashboard would have pushed my IRR to 28.1% The one caveat is that some of the profits are paper gains, yet to be realized. But I cashed out on some substantial gains already, especially Revolut and Landbay shares via the Seedrs*  secondary market. I invested mostly (81%) in fintech startups – for those interested in the details here is a screenshot of my recent portfolio.

seedrs price changesSince 2017 Seedrs* provides a secondary market allowing investors to sell shares to each other. Depending on how in demand the traded startups are, shares sell out within minutes/seconds or the market opening (e.g. Revolut shares in 2019). The secondary market opens only for one week a month, a measure Seedrs has taken to heighten liquidity by concentrating demand and supply.

Up to now prices for the traded part were fix and changed seldom determined by ‘fair value‘ settings. Simplified in most cases the value of shares was set based on the valuation the startup raised capital on its last round. The price changed only with a new round and that usually happend only once every 1-2 years (see the picture, the curves are in most cases straight lines as there are only two datapoints). Furthermore the valuation of the startup is set (controlled) by the startup itself (unless there is a large professional investor like a VC participating in the round). I don’t want to do an excursion into the possible methods of startup valuation as that would make a rather long article, but rather say that some valuations of Seedrs pitches seemed rather inflated to me.

As early as Dec. 2018 Seedrs announced that it intended to enable variable pricing on the secondary market trading.

Since yesterday evening variable pricing is now live on the Seedrs* secondary market. Sellers can list their shares with discounts of up to -30% and premiums of up to 30%. Unfortunately Seedrs only allows steps of 10% and not granular 1% prices increases.

This will allow me some interesting experiments with the pricing feature

So far I mainly used the Seedrs secondary market to

a) buy to increase my stake in promising stakes in promising startups I already held and where I saw potential for further strong growth

b) sell shares to realize profits

The investment time frame for this has been multiple years. With flexible pricing there might be chances for some trading opportunities on shorter time spans.

In the early times of the secondary markets on Bondora* and Mintos* I did a lot of active trading. My learning was that there was a time span of several months when I could trade very profitable due to the fact that these secondary markets where very new, everbody had to learn which trading strategies worked best and there was a big mismatch between supply and demand. After a few month the opportunity vanished as traders got more professional and margins diminished. And the effort had to be worth my time invested. But those first months in a new market taught me a lot about market dynamics and market psychology, brought good profits and I had a lot of fun.

Repeating that on the Seedrs secondary market will not be easy. First of all the transaction fees on Seedrs secondary market are high. Second trading is not real time (it takes days for transactions to settle). And third the demand concentrates on a few startups that investors deem attractive while there is little buyer demand for all the other startups. On the other hand demand for startup shares is much more driven by expectations and emotions than on the p2p lending markets, where there are hard figures like YTM (yield to maturity) to gauge available parts on offer against each other.

Simply wishing to buy a share at -30% and then resell it at +30% obviously won’t work. But maybe buying at -30% and later reselling at -10%?

I sold more than 95% of the Revolut shares I held in May 2020 at the fixed fair value. There were a lot (about 2M GBP) of Revolut shares on offer in June and July trading cycles which went unsold. I will watch closely whether any offers at -30% will show up next trading cycle. At that price point I might be tempted to buy them again. At the time of this writing there is one lot on offer at -30%, three at -20% and multiple at -10%.

What’s your take on the introduction of variable pricing on the Seedrs secondary market. Share your opinion in the comments.

This article is not an investment advice. Investing in startups bears significant risks, including total loss of investment.

International P2P Lending Volumes June 2020

The table lists the loan originations of p2p lending marketplaces for last month. Mintos* leads ahead of Finbee* and Ratesetter*. The total volume for the reported marketplaces in the table adds up to 236 million Euro. I track the development of p2p lending volumes for many markets. Since I already have most of the data on file, I can publish statistics on the monthly loan originations for selected p2p lending platforms. This month I added Kviku*. I delisted Smartika as it does not seem to have originated any new loans for 5 month now.

Investors living in national markets with no or limited selection of local p2p lending services can check this list of international investing on p2p lending services. Investors can also explore how to make use of current p2p lending cashback offers available. UK investors can compare IFISA rates.

p2p lending statistics June 2020
Table: P2P Lending Volumes in June 2020. Source: own research
#note: Finbee loans include SME support loans originated via the platform by the Lithuanian government

Note that volumes have been converted from local currency to Euro for the purpose of comparison. Some figures are estimates/approximations.

Links to the platforms listed in the table: Ablrate*, Archover*, Assetz Capital*, Bondora*, Bondster*, Bulkestate*, Colectual*, Credit.fr*, Crowdproperty*, Debitum Network*, Dofinance*, Estateguru*, Fellow Finance*, Finansowo*, Finbee*, Folk2Folk*, Geldvoorelkaar*, Growly*, Investly*, Iuvo Group*, Kameo*, Klear*, Kviku*, Landlordinvest*, Linked Finance*, Lenndy* Look&Fin*, Mintos*, MyTrippleA*, Nordstreet*, October*, Peerberry*, Proplend*, Ratesetter*, Rebuilding Society*, Savy*, Soisy*, Sourced*, Swaper*, TFGcrowd*, ThinCats*, Twino*, Viainvest*, Viventor*, Zopa*.

Notice to p2p lending services not listed: Continue reading

Court Order to Freeze Assets of Former Lendy Directors

Today Lendy’s Joint Administrator’s second progress report was published. It reveals that they took action against two former directors of the marketplace company.

The relevant part states:

Detailed investigations have been undertaken into the Company’s affairs during the period covered by this report, with the assistance of the Joint Administrators’ instructed solicitors Pinsent Masons LLP. The investigations have included carrying out reviews of the Company’s books and records, performing detailed analysis of the Company’s bank statements and reviewing the results of key word searches of the c480,000 Company emails held by the Joint Administrators.

The Joint Administrators have now also carried out interviews with both Liam B.. and Tim G.., the former directors of Lendy. The investigations have been concerned with a number of transactions, most significantly payments of approximately £6.8million that were paid to entities registered in the Marshall Islands for apparent marketing services carried out for Lendy. It is the Administrators’ position, however, that these payments were ultimately for the benefit of Liam B.. and Tim G…

As a result of these investigations, on 1st June 2020 the Joint Administrators made an application to Court for a worldwide freezing injunction to be granted over the assets of Liam B.. and Tim G.., as well as proprietary injunctions on the properties owned by companies linked to the directors, RFP Holdings Limited and LP Alhambra Limited. The Order was granted on the 4 June 2020. Proceedings have now been commenced against Liam B.., Tim G.., RFP Holdings Limited and LP Alhambra Limited. Owing to the nature of these claims, the Joint Administrators are unable to provide further information at this time.

 

International P2P Lending Volumes May 2020

The table lists the loan originations of p2p lending marketplaces for last month. Mintos* leads ahead of Ratesetter* and Finbee*. The total volume for the reported marketplaces in the table adds up to 188 million Euro. I track the development of p2p lending volumes for many markets. Since I already have most of the data on file, I can publish statistics on the monthly loan originations for selected p2p lending platforms. This month I added Nordstreet*.

Milestones achieved:

  • Finbee* crossed 50 million EUR loan volume since launch

Investors living in national markets with no or limited selection of local p2p lending services can check this list of international investing on p2p lending services. Investors can also explore how to make use of current p2p lending cashback offers available. UK investors can compare IFISA rates.

p2p lending statistic may 2020
Table: P2P Lending Volumes in May 2020. Source: own research

Note that volumes have been converted from local currency to Euro for the purpose of comparison. Some figures are estimates/approximations.

Links to the platforms listed in the table: Ablrate*, Archover*, Assetz Capital*, Bondora*, Bondster*, Bulkestate*, Colectual*, Credit.fr*, Crowdproperty*, Debitum Network*, Dofinance*, Estateguru*, Fellow Finance*, Finansowo*, Finbee*, Folk2Folk*, Geldvoorelkaar*, Growly*, Investly*, Iuvo Group*, Kameo*, Klear*, Landlordinvest*, Linked Finance*, Lenndy* Look&Fin*, Mintos*, MyTrippleA*, Nordstreet*,  October*, Peerberry*, Proplend*, Ratesetter*, Rebuilding Society*, Savy*, Smartika*, Soisy*, Sourced*, Swaper*, TFGcrowd*, ThinCats*, Twino*, Viainvest*, Viventor*, Zopa*.

Notice to p2p lending services not listed: Continue reading

International P2P Lending Volumes April 2020

The table lists the loan originations of p2p lending marketplaces for last month. Mintos* leads ahead of Ratesetter* and Peerberry*. I track the development of p2p lending volumes for many markets. Since I already have most of the data on file, I can publish statistics on the monthly loan originations for selected p2p lending platforms. This month I added Debitum Network*.

Milestones achieved:

  • Neofinance* crossed 50 million EUR loan volume since launch
  • MytripleA* crossed 100 million EUR loan originations since inception

The decline of loan originations due to the pandemic continues in April. Read my previous article ‘Hunger for Liquidity – State of P2P Lending in Times of the Coronavirus‘ for earlier observations on this. In reaction some marketplaces paused originating new loans either completely or in certain countries or credit grades.

Investors living in national markets with no or limited selection of local p2p lending services can check this list of international investing on p2p lending services. Investors can also explore how to make use of current p2p lending cashback offers available. UK investors can compare IFISA rates.


Table: P2P Lending Volumes in April 2020. Source: own research

Note that volumes have been converted from local currency to Euro for the purpose of comparison. Some figures are estimates/approximations.

Links to the platforms listed in the table: Ablrate*, Archover*, Assetz Capital*, Bondora*, Bondster*, Bulkestate*, Colectual*, Credit.fr*, Crowdproperty*, Debitum Network*, Dofinance*, Estateguru*, Fellow Finance*, Finansowo*, Finbee*, Folk2Folk*, Geldvoorelkaar*, Growly*, Investly*, Iuvo Group*, Kameo*, Klear*, Landlordinvest*, Linked Finance*, Lenndy* Look&Fin*, Mintos*, MyTrippleA*, Neofinance* , October*, Peerberry*, Proplend*, Ratesetter*, Rebuilding Society*, Savy*, Smartika*, Soisy*, Sourced*, Swaper*, TFGcrowd*, ThinCats*, Twino*, Viainvest*, Viventor*, Zopa*.

Notice to p2p lending services not listed: Continue reading

Estateguru Launches Equity Crowdfunding Round on Seedrs to Raise 2M

Baltic property lending platform Estateguru* has just launched a round on Seedrs* to raise up to 2 million EUR in new funding at a pre-money valuation of 28.8M EUR . Estateguru was launched in Estonia 6 years ago and has since expanded into the Latvian, Lithuanian, Finnish, Portugeese and German markets. Using the platform 47,000 investors have funded over 1,400 loans with a volume of 202 million EUR for an average return of 11.8% (as per Estateguru statistics page). All loans are secured by mortgages. Estateguru says that so far all recoveries of defaults have returned 100% of the capital and just the length of discovery varied sometimes taking months, sometimes taking years.

Estateguru plans to use the raised capital to further develop the product, especially improving features for institutional investors. Estateguru* can build on the experiences it made in a two-year relationship with German Varengold bank which has provided a credit line to finance loans. A second goal is to expand into further markets. In a recent investor webinar CEO Marek Pärtel named UK as a potential market, stating Estateguru already holds the required licenses since last year. Furthermore Estateguru will implement integration with payment provider Lemonway.

Pärtel said in the webinar that Estateguru has doubled in size every year in the past and expects the fast growth to continue in the future.